And I can back up that claim by the fact I have read, watched and listened to all there is to know about this case. Patricia Mal told Keith Morrison that Patricias dance teacher originally confirmed her alibi that she was in class on the day of the murder, then changed his mind. Stop trying to prove that everyone who is prosecuted is rightfully prosecuted. Thats my life.. Another point is the theory developed by the cops that the victim (Joann) was shot just one time and then bludgeoned to death. I think we need to realize that each dollar we spend or don't spend could have a serious impact on our society and our safety.". All that remains is the conclusion of an appeal that Prue's husband Allen Prue has made to the Vermont Supreme Court following his October conviction in Jenkins' murder. The difference between the cases was that the child was not injured and the individual wrote down the details of the plan in a notebook, but otherwise it seems extremely similar to me. They allege that the North Carolina resident stealthily drove 500 miles to Pennsylvania and killed out of a sense of deadly indignation. Puny policy. I thought the same. More likely it reflects a relative reluctance to execute females as well as the pendency of what will be the last episode of DNA investigation. Calling her ex because she just likes to stay in touch w peopleLOL! If Patricia drove it back from the murder scene after she shot Joann and then beat her to death, luminal would have lit up the interior. Feb 7, 2017 Patricia A. Giddings, seated beside Keeseville-based attorney Jacob Painter in Clinton County Court on Tuesday, spoke only to affirm she understood the proceedings. He was sentenced Said to life in prison without the possibility of parole. Murder in Lehigh Valley: Keith Morrison Reports is also available on YouTube, but it costs $1.99 to view (Keith comes off as an advocate for Patricias innocence on the episode). "This is the 13th case solved after the creation of the cold case task force," said El Dorado County District Attorney Vern Pierson. Im dying. Said Then 31 years old, she had lived a rocky existence. which makes a complete nonsense of their gun theory.. A newspaper account described Patricia as a soft-spoken, demure woman who had a sweet Southern accent and wore feminine clothes in court. Required fields are marked *. Suzanne Pearson fabricated quotes from Patricia including her claim that Patricia said, Im going to the electric chair upon her arrest because a conviction would boost Pearsons career. They retested the hair for DNA evidence with updated technology definitely Patricias hair case closed. The Worldwide Womens Criminal Justice Networks website also points to a bombshell: In 2015, the Justice Department acknowledged that most of the team members from an FBI microscopic hair comparison unit gave prosecutors flawed data from 1980 to 2000 that could have unjustly contributed to a number convictions including Patricia Rorrers. Conflicting versions. And James Pfeiffer and Jim Burke have remained on her side. . Yassein Saids sentencing has been set for June 4. After all, justice has been served in the eyes of the law, so why go on demonising her? If in the woods in a rural area, no animal, rodent or insect touched those bodies? Browns action to grant clemency was rescinded after discovering that Patricia Wright had two prior felonies from when her son stole two 99-cent toys and a hand towel from an open house 15 years earlier. I hope she suffers and goes insane from loneliness. The girls mother, Patricia Said, fled with both girls in the week before their killings because she was in great fear of her life, police said. 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I THINK THEY SHOULD REOPEN THIS CASE AND LOOK AT THE HUSBAND JUST SAYING BUT IN MY HEART AND MIND FROM READING ALL THE NOTES AND STUFF PATRICA IS NOT GUILTY AND THEY NEED TO SET HER FREE. They were not reported until 5:30 the next morning and he had already spliced the phone lines together. Id wanna be done with that shite quick too.. meh what do I know! THESE COPS ARE WRONG AND THEY ALL SHOULD BE IN JAIL FOR WHAT THEY DID TO PATRICA, PUTTING HER AWAY FOR LIFE FOR SOMETHING SHE DID NOT DO. Highly charged case. Ten months after Joann died he murdered another woman (who looks just like her) and her baby, as well. Its sad that some people just cant move on and continue to feel that what they want is going to be THEIRS regardless. And even prosecutor Michael McIntyre, who wrote the book Hair Trigger about the case, acknowledged to Keith Morrison that it was a little odd that the police found blood on the hairs in Joanns car but nowhere else in the vehicle. Browns downtown Los Angeles office demanding that he grant Patricia Wright clemency. We didnt expect it. In North Carolina, she reportedly enjoyed some success as a horse trader, riding instructor, and rodeo competitor. The woman who was showing the home alleged that Patricia was involved in the theft. What they reported to us is that she came into their care in 1999 where she was found in need, in the streets in Puerto Rico, where she had been wandering around. I am sorry it ever happened at all.". Patricia is a evil monster. One lengthy sentence which goes on and on and concludes with one of my sentences from a previous comment! They are a joke. Cold case: Rape kits from two women lead to arrest in 1979 South They were able to match 5 hairs all the same micro DNA which happened to match the DNA pulled from blood samples Pat gave. And yikes, he discovered someone had cut one of the houses phone lines and pried the hinge on the basement door. They also think she killed her first hubby Larry Ford as well. The fact that previous boyfriends noted her obsession with Andrew is very, very telling. A Texas man who carried out the mass shooting at the Cielo Vista Walmart in El Paso, Texas, on Aug. 3, 2019, killing 23 people and injuring 22 more, pleaded guilty today in U.S. District Court to a 90-count indictment, including 45 counts of violating the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd Jr. Blasczyk said she is pleased with the outcome of the case. pTq r |G.H=IO-I7`,|&m2tj1Lo;{~}squ_~zpMq7 Fact is she wasnt and all of her alibis were proven to be lies. Patricia was relieved when police took him for custody after 12 years of her daughter's murder. She is a tough one, Sheriff Gerald Hege would later tell the Morning Call in a June 29, 1997 interview. He would be alive today if it were not for Patricia Rorrer. The mild-mannered Sarah died in 2019 at the age of 83. And I have absolutely no sympathy. You know the answer to that, the same as I do, which is. How could I explain to my daughter years later that I took a plea for something I didnt do? she said. And in a piece of salacious testimony, Patricia Rorrers half sister, Sandra Ireland, said that in May 1995, about six months after the murder, their mother, Patricia Chambers, stopped by the house and asked her to hold onto or hide a gun, or both. Because of these two prior offences, Patricia was sentenced to life in prison without possibility of parole under Californias Three Strikes Law. DA readily agreed they did not belong to Rorrer, was happy to admit they were never submitted for analysis. Cold case: Rape kits from two women lead to arrest in 1979 South Stop it.. I dont think so. The fact that Jerome was gay was left out of the trial altogether. I happen to be one of those deluded people youre so freely attempting to insult. Advocates for her innocence complain of hype surrounding the case. At one point, Owens looked directly at Said and reminded him of all of the abuse they endured, allegedly having a knife pulled on her. Andrew told investigators that the unpleasant phone call between Joann and Patricia happened just three days before his wifes disappearance. Its his hair (dirty blond and roughly 8 inches in length) that was found in Joanns hand. Jenkins' violent death shocked residents of the Northeast Kingdom, including Gerta Blasczyk of St. Johnsbury. Police theorize she owned the gun, but its neither here nor there whether she used a particular gun to kill and would make sense (to a wise perp) that the gun couldnt be linked to her by past activity. During the trial, the prosecutor said that the insurance reward would have been $180,000, which was totally exaggerated, said Arletta Wright, Patricias sister, who has been championing Patricias innocence from the beginning of Patricias time in prison. I would bet MONEY that the first baby born to Patricia didnt die of SIDS. A correction to the comment above. Bully for you if youve read a lot and seen a lot: its meaningless to other posters and adds nothing to your argument for innocence. She would also have no heart when it comes to children, not even her own. We should be skeptical of those, like you, who suggest its obvious a jury got it wrong that you know better than 12 people presented with the evidence. Patricias accusers theorized that she resented Joanns domestic bliss with the tall, athletic Andrew Katrinak. Three Strikes holds dying innocent woman behind bars: Justice for Patricia Wright I am outraged at the rush to judgment displayed by the LAPD, wrote Michelle Alexander, civil rights attorney and author of the influential book, The New Jim Crow. 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His father confirmed his alibi that they were doing construction work together, putting an addition on the house of friends Tom and Kathy Holschwander, at the time of Joanns disappearance. "We will never again know the joy and love we knew for 33 years," the letter stated. Jenkins was a teacher at St. Johnsbury Academy. The Common Sense Guy you should put yourself on top of the list of deluded people. At 6 a.m. on June 24, 1997, police arrested Patricia at her modest house in Linwood, North Carolina, and took her back to Pennsylvania. Police were led to the Prues by a business card found in Jenkins' home for Allen Prue's snow-plow business and a report that the Prues had called Jenkins about trouble with their vehicle. Owens said Said made her a weak woman but that those days are over. The fact that shortly after Joanns funeral, Andy reconnected with an old friend, a woman who happened to live about 4 miles from where the bodies were found. Agree with all you say but theres so much more involving incompetence, corruption, evidence tampering and then witnesses, in Rorrers favour, who were not disclosed to her defence her trial (something they were legally obliged to do). "I couldn't believe it," Blasczyk said of the crime. That did amuse me I have to say, but youre way off target there Im more than happy with my state of mind before and after reading any of these comments. which makes a complete nonsense of their gun theory. Said Yaser Said was arrested Aug. 26 after authorities searched the Justin home. The number of delusional people in this world both shocks and frightens me. He wanted to move to Colorado and she was against it.. And finally, your supercilious comment about Speculative lies Ive perused my previous comments and at no point do I see those words! . I would suggest you take the time to read the book or, at least watch the documentaries which STICK TO THE FACTS, and then comment. From my point of view, the American police investigations are first hand, and often very poorly done, Ive only seen worse in the British police, which is paradoxical given the laudatory talent of both nationalities, but it is a Scandinavian saying: bigger the mouth, smaller the facts. That phone call came in on December 7, 1994. Forensic Files didnt mention it, but the hairs were actually brown at the top and the rest dyed blond, according to the show Autopsy Six: A Fatal Attraction. I accept there are a couple of remarks which can be seen that way but they are in direct response to those whove been offensive in the first place. There is no justice for your loved ones when the wrong person is paying for the crime. Instead of presenting hard facts, all I see are words and phrases that are purely speculative.. such as perhaps. Sure theres DNA, but if she truly is innocent then why not advocate to find the gun. Rorrer killed these two people in cold blood and the jury got it right! They also found a photo of Patricia taken 11 days before the homicide. Said tried to blame the FBI for not searching for an unknown person, he said, was the real killer. Quote if I had known I would get caught, I would never have brought you into this world. Pat to Nicole her daughter. But defense lawyer Robert Pfeiffer said that plenty of evidence supported Patricias innocence. neither her nor there couldnt be linked to her. For goodness sake, it was never proved at her trial she used the gun the police so steadfastly offered as evidence or for that matter, ANY OTHER GUN. How so? I didnt read anything in this article that convinced me I didnt like that the lab had a bad rep and I do agree the police lie and frame people sometimes so I cant say 100% she did it or not. She should have received the death penalty imo. They allege that the North Carolina resident stealthily drove 500 miles to Pennsylvania and killed out of a sense of deadly indignation. Locked up. Nataly Keomoungkhoun, Engagement/Breaking News reporter. Help, the younger sister could be heard crying on a 911 recording. Great catch. If not, how could Andrew have obtained samples of Patricias hair if they apparently didnt meet up in person after Andrews marriage? Nope. And while youre on that list, you can be happy in the knowledge youre not in rarefied company. "Clive was a skilful and inventive actor with wide experience, as his successful career proved," she said. Why isn't Patricia "Tissie" Said in jail for her role in this "honor As to blood splatter, at a far enough distance, a .22 isnt going to leave much blood splatter, and there probably wont be an exit wound, it will just bounce around the skull, and you dont have to make someone bleed to beat them, and several months in the elements is plenty of time to wash away some evidence as well, although luckily not all. This article is little more than fiction. Patricia seemed like the girl next door but all of a sudden, something snapped, Katrinak later told Wrong Man investigators. Ill always say that Tommy Lynn Sells murdered the Routier boys OR the father Darrin did it. You seem to have a fragile ego. Re Sells, the problem viz some serial killers is in exaggerating the number as a badge of honour. Patrica Owens, Yaser Said's ex-wife, testified before the jury Thursday morning and said why she fled her home with her daughters only to return days before they were Patricia Rorrer has been portrayed as a bully, petty thief, neglectful horse owner, and heartless killer or a sweet, caring friend railroaded by authorities desperate to solve a double-murder case that snagged worldwide interest. Im trying to understand exactly your reasoning asking me staying away from this site because of my insulting remarks! After an hour Id call anyone whod listen to me including police! And the obvious answer is Ill tell you why (which really is common knowledge). Am I supposed to believe that she was still so enraged a week later, that she drove almost 10 hours, in a conspicuous van with a bad U-joint, to kill this woman and her baby? Once, when a gun-wielding farmer and his buddy caught Patricia and Gary riding motorcycles on his field, Patricia walked up and got in their faces and argued, Gary recalled to the Morning Call. Anyway, there are thousands of people who differ from that belief, that is why there is so much controversy surrounding this case, and that is why there have been numerous convicted people in the past whove been exonerated on appeal. Dial-a-problem. After 30 minutes Id be calling someone! Your comment could not be farther than the truth! Wheres the evidence that Patty was obsessed with Andy? Most of all, Patricia said, she would like a rematch with prosecutor Michael McIntyre. I have not SEEN this report that says no root found is there a picture of it online somewhere? The case was eventually abandoned. "Please do the right thing for Melissa.". Its been going on for almost 31 years, the distraught man explained. Her jealousy and rage because Joann told her to not contact her husband set her off. Yaser Said is accused of killing his two daughters in 2008. I believe the answer to your question is in my comment above. 2023 NYP Holdings, Inc. 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It seems so, according to you. According to Kohlhepp, the RTPD obtained Patricia Koptas DNA sample, then obtained one from her sister and a nephew. This woman was not innocent, but she is very good at manipulating people into feeling sorry for her. She held up pictures of her dead daughters. At one point Interpol had an extremely similar case in which an individual convinced a friend, who had been his sexual partner several times in the past, to kill the woman he had a baby with, on the grounds that the child is not his and he does not love her but cannot leave because everyone would accuse him of abandoning his child and his family name would be affected. Both sides agree Joann hung up on Patricia. The hearing of the motion for reduction of felony to misdemeanor will be held Tuesday, Oct. 11, at 1:30 p.m. in the Riverside Courthouse at 4050 Main St. in Department 42. However, while sticking solely to the Rorrer case, the issue of the husbands alibi is very much open to doubt if one takes into consideration what the documentary, STARZ-The Wrong Man (in two parts) has revealed. She said that shes no fan of Forensic Files and that the show had many misrepresentations about her case and that shed heard ForensicFilesNow.com mixed up some facts as well. Why bother with this site, which isnt for professional criminalists/forensic scientists, if youre going to get so tetchy and rude? A man was convicted Thursday of helping to hide a brother who was accused of murdering his teenage daughters in Irving more than 12 years ago, the U.S. Attorneys Office announced. Well of course it is, so you overstated your opinion as though you know it to be fact, thus the jury and others were wrong; ironic because youre quick to complain that others are much to sure of *their* opinion shes guilty. In addition to the Facebook page, there are Reddit threads on her case. Im a hunter and in the spring I have found many dead deer that died from starvation or other reasons and the bodies are untouched. Opinion: the ideas that a person or a group of people have about something or someone, which are based mainly on their feelings and beliefs, or a single idea of this type.. But it doesnt make a nonsense of her being the shooter, regardless of their speculation. As for the words exchanged on the call between the two big-haired women, Joann told Andrew that Patricia had used profanity; Patricia said it was the other way around. Why is this even a question, why people are trying to take out killers into society? They also presented an email from the girls to one of their teachers prior to the murder saying they feared their father would kill them. The Free Patricia Rorrer page responds to comments from supporters (How is this even possible that this woman is still in jail?!? However, my curiosity is piqued as to why Andrews mother didnt report the missing daughter in law, Joanne and her own grandson Alex! FBI agents watched them deliver grocery bags to the house and then followed them to a shopping center in Southlake where they dumped trash from the home, prosecutors said. If that really is the case, the husbands alibi for a date months before becomes irrelevant. Owens said because of what Said did, she will never get to see her daughters grow up. And she will have to answer eventually. Those who knew Joann pointed out that she didnt like to drive in reverse and would have never parked that way. Mark and Patricia McCloskey According to the Division of the Adult Institutions and Gov. They had a son, Alex Martin, in August of 1994. In your future life in prison I trust that not a day goes by in which you won't revisit your crime.". So we can just pretend that everyone is honest all of the time? But then again I havent actually SEEN the evidence. Why? She was bubbly and likable, not disgruntled, according to friend Kathy Barber, who visited her friend in jail.
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